Muslims in New Zealand are young, energetic and growing

"New Zealand Muslims are fortunate to be able to observe their faith in peace and tranquility."

Mohammed Answar Ali, secretary of the New Zealand Muslim Association.

Although a minority, less than 1% of the total population, the Muslim population in New Zealand is young, energetic and growing. It is estimated that there are approximately 17,000 Muslims in New Zealand representing a wide range of nations including Fiji, Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, Indonesia and Malaysia. The largest proportion of New Zealand's Muslims originally come from Fiji and are ethnically Fijian Indian. There are also a growing number of local New Zealanders who are converting to Islam.
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According to official census figures, the Muslim population has doubled almost every 5 years for the past 25 years.

Auckland, New Zealand

An estimated 63% of New Zealand's Muslims live in Auckland, but there are also large communities in Wellington, Hamilton, Christchurch and Dunedin. There are currently 9 mosques and Islamic centres, 5 of which are in Auckland. Auckland's largest mosque is in the suburb of Ranui. The first Islamic school, Al Madinah, is in the Auckland suburb of Mangere. According to a recent report, Al Madinah, which has 350 students, has the lowest school grades in New Zealand.

While most of New Zealand's Muslims are Sunni Muslim there is also a small community of almost 1500 Shia Muslims. Due to recent changes in immigration policies this number has doubled over the past 3 years. During the late 1980's there were as few as 12 Shia families, however due to new opportunities in New Zealand many professionals have immigrated. Several members of the Shia community are running weekend Arabic schools and they are hoping to build a Shia Islamic school in Auckland soon.

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Christian Witness Needed in New Zealand

Christian witness among New Zealand's Muslims is almost non-existent. Most Muslims in New Zealand will never meet a Christian or even be invited into a local New Zealand home. There is a small number of sincere Christians who pray regularly together and who are quietly reaching out to their Muslim neighbours, but the challenge to mobilise the Church in New Zealand to reach out to their local Muslim community is enormous.

Prayer Guide for New Zealand

* Pray for the migrants and refugees which are arriving in New Zealand almost every day.

* Pray that they would be placed within access to Christian support services.

* Pray for those Muslims who already have contacts with Christians, that their hearts would be opened to receive the Gospel.

* Pray for the children and teachers at Al Madinah School to have access to the Gospel.

* Pray that the Church in New Zealand would have an awareness of their responsibility and a desire to reach out to their local Muslim communities.

Background on New Zealand (World Factbook)

The Polynesian Maori reached New Zealand in about A.D. 800. In 1840, their chieftains entered into a compact with Britain, the Treaty of Waitangi, in which they ceded sovereignty to Queen Victoria while retaining territorial rights. In that same year, the British began the first organized colonial settlement. A series of land wars between 1843 and 1872 ended with the defeat of the native peoples. The British colony of New Zealand became an independent dominion in 1907 and supported the UK militarily in both World Wars. New Zealand's full participation in a number of defense alliances lapsed by the 1980s. In recent years, the government has sought to address longstanding Maori grievances.

Economy of New Zealand

New Zealand has seen remarkable economic growth over the past two decades. Most of this growth is due to a move away from an agrarian economy to technological and industrial sectors. Although not everyone has gained from this, per capita income rose for 10 years. It achieved 2.1% growth in 2010.

About New Zealand

Population: 4,290,347 (July 2011 est.) World Rank #125

Life Expectancy at Birth: 80.59 years. World Rank #23

Ethnic groups: European 69.8%, Maori 7.9%, Asian 5.7%, Pacific islander 4.4%, other 0.5%, mixed 7.8%, unspecified 3.8%

Religions: Anglican 14.9%, Roman Catholic 12.4%, Presbyterian 10.9%, Methodist 2.9%, Pentecostal 1.7%, Baptist 1.3%, other Christian 9.4%, other 3.3%, unspecified 17.2%, none 26%

Languages: English (official), Maori (official), Sign Language (official)

Literacy: 99%

School Life Expectancy: 19 years


"NZ - Islam Nation" - Video

A Documentry piece on what it means to be a Muslim New Zealander.


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  1. Mohamed Souissy says:

    HAPPY NEW YEAR (2008/ AD-1429/ AH)

  2. Faisal Ali says:

    Salam Alikum

    I am thinking to move either to Australia or New zealand. please guide me in the light of religious stablity, rascim. Please guide me as i need your advice..

    Thanks
    Wsalams

    • Zeeshan says:

      I would recomment New Zealand. I was born in inda and came here when i was 4. life is really peaceful here, people really get along with each other and throughout my entire life in NZ I have never really discriminated against for being indian or muslim. people are very accepting and NZ is ranked #1 in peaceful countries.

  3. EBENEZER HM says:

    Great work as an Ex Muslim i would love to pary for Muslims around the world. I share gospel to Muslims of Malabar
    Ebenezer H Mohammad

  4. michellec says:

    As an American convert into Islam from Christianity and a family with preachers and missonarys it drives me crazy to see why or when Christians go arround trying to convert people into Christianity. (this is for the expert above trying to convert muslims)People come into Islam in many ways but we do not send people out trying to convert people or think we should pray to change someones beliefs. If people instead of trying to convert the Muslims would spend there time accepting them even if not agreeing with them things would be much better off and there would be better relations. My husband (convert too)and 4 sons(young) will be moving to NZ to escape the problems here in the US with people and Muslims. My family can be traced to this country from the Mayflower and have been in politics and done so much for this country and now here I am having to leave it. I hope things are better in NZ and people are not so ignorant about Muslims as they are here.

    • Hamesh says:

      assalamo alaikom Michelle,

      NZ is as any where else. You find people who can see things as they are( usually not many and dear to meet) and people who can see things throuh a lot of filters. we have to learn to live with reality , appreciate those who see it and adapt to living with those who can not. We can just try our best to represent the real esence of our religion and leave the rest to Allah to help us live the life he menat for us and let others see what our religion really is about. Mass media has planted a lot of confusion ionto many people's heads, but we are real and we can show those confused people how different we are from the twisted image endosed by politically drived media. I belive living in Auckland, Duniden, Wellington , Hamilton or christchurch( in order ) can be easier for a muslin than the rest of the country( based on my experience and other stories form muslim acquantances).

      Mnay muslim families live peacefully and happily in NZ for many years now. from time to time they face the challenege of meeting mislead people, unusual questions, mocking of clothing or of not being able to get a job) but they managed to deal with it, get over it, avoid it.. and they still live in new zealand and like it. (Unfortunately I stayed only 4 years and could not live away from my engineering carreer any longer as my financial status forced me to go for jobs overseas when i failed to get a single job as an engineer till 1999. I di dnot go back to NZ since thena althoug hI miss it very much..after all it is my country and I do love it. The positive scores are much higher than the negative ones in my opinion at the time I left the country..i hope it did not change much these days. Take care. you will be more than fine. people's experieences are different.

      Hamesh

  5. Grace Lohrmann says:

    Pray for New Zealand Muslims:
    * for Christian New Zealanders to reach out to them in love
    * for Bible distrbution amongst New Zealand Muslims
    * for dreams, visions, and revelations of the LORD Jesus
    * for Muslim Albanians to come to Christ and then return to Albania with the Gospel
    * pray for MBBs in New Zealand

  6. As - salaamu - alaikum
    My family and I are seriously thinking of emigrating to New Zealand. I am a teacher while my wife is a bank manager. We are both well educated with degrees. We have 2 young children. Our main concern is that will we get jobs and is it possible for our kids to grow up as Muslims and not be persecuted or ridiculed for their religious convictions. The New Zealanders we have met on our travels in Europe were fantastic people and warm and we got along so well and that is what we find so appealing to make New Zealand our home. Also, we want a safe and clean environment for our children and New Zealand fits the bill. Please advise in this regard.
    Afzal Noor Mahomed - South Africa

  7. Dr Imran Ali says:

    "Most Muslims in New Zealand will never meet a Christian or even be invited into a local New Zealand home."

    I have not heard of anything more ridiculous! Most NZ muslims are well integrated and have many Christian friends. We go to their houses and attend their weddings and vice versa. We respect each others faiths and leave it at that.

    I suggest that you check the credibility of your information

  8. Ibrahim Ali says:

    Our LORD Appreciated Christians asPer Quranic Verses 3:55,5:82,57:27,28 Except Quranic Verses 5:14,15,16 and 57,9:31. As per Quranic Versus 4:59 and 83, it is our duty to spread the following messages to all concerns towards public peace, security, health and wealth of mankind in the world as per our website http://www.goldenduas.com. The following message ought to have published to all the members of the group so far.As per quranic versus 4:59 and 83 it is a duty to spread the following messages in the interest of public peace, health and wealth. "please download from web site http://WWW.GOLDENDUAS.COM for peace, security, health& wealth for mankind and the same may be published to all members of the group based on quranic verses 2:2,10:57,17:11,16,28:59,39:55,57,13:37 &65:8. Otherwise it will amount to refusal to follow our Lord Order, guidance and direction as per Quranic verses 6:26" Please kindly arrange to post the above said message in the group website/as news item in the interest of public to know all concerns in the interest of peace, security, health and wealth of all mankind. Otherwise it will amount to refuse to follow our Lord Order, guidance and direction as per Quranic verses 6:26"

    With kind regards
    U.IBRAHIMALI

  9. syed naseem abbas hasani says:

    salamunalaikum

    ummeed karta hun ke aap sabhi hazrat khairyat se honge allah aap sab ko salamat rakhe aameen agar aap logon ko kisi aalim ki zarurat ho to bata insha allah mai aap ki madad karunga insha allah

    khuda hafiz

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  11. Kathleen says:

    Asalaamu alaykum brothers and sisters of Islam and hello to the Chritians,

    I am a convert to Islam and I also live in Auckland NZ. After what I have read on the home page of this website I must correct you in what you said about Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). Firstly he did not raid caravans and he did not steal due to financial difficulties. Anyone who looks hard enough from the true sources would know that these are lies. One of the most well know sharia laws is that if one is caught stealing (apart from food if one is deprived of it) then the hand must be cut. Prophet Muhammad (p.b.u.h.) clearly states in a hadith that if his own daughter was caught stealing then he would enforce the law upon her. Before I accepted Islam I was somewhat familiar with Christianity as I attended Sunday School as a child and also Bible Studies as a teenager. I then moved to Sydney and joined the Sydney Church of Christ. I felt a lot of pressure from the church, and I saw a huge emphasis on money, ie. one was required to give a lot of donations to the church, it was repeated often and the minimum amount strongly emphasised by the church seemed like a lot. Yes in Islam we are required to give, but it is not pushed for as much as what I saw in my experience with the church. Also the last time I drove past Al Madinah School the results for the National Exams were on their notice board "Pass 98%". Also their neighbouring school, Zayed College for Girls, has an excellent pass rate and has excellent ERO report since they first opened (approx. 10 years ago). On a final note all I can say about Islam is that is has so, so, so much more knowledge about Prophet Jesus (peace be upon him) and I am proud to say Islam gives him the respect he is deserving of.

    • KKKK says:

      I am a Christian. I believe that jesus was the son of god sent from God for salvation and read the Bible every day. I hope you come to the Truth.

      • Hamesh says:

        I am a Muslim, To know the truth one should read more than his own religion book. I read in Bible and Quran and I try to find what they agree on an dwhat they do not. What is really stated in each book and what was claimed to be stated there. I do not think looking at my footstep only is a wise thing to do this is why I try to read about other religions; as it is enlightening.

  12. Bruce B says:

    It`s way past time western governments stopped islamic immigration as they do not assimilate

    • ANNIE says:

      Yes I agree 100%! There is far too many here in Australia, and I am sick of being frowned upon by the muslims in our area, whether near home or shops. They look at us and sneer at us as if we are the ones living in the 1st century, when in fact it is them. They refuse to live as Australians, refuse to assimilate and regard us as racist and intolerant, yet what they seem to forget is that if we weren't such a tolerant nation they wouldn't be here to begin with. They accuse all aussie women of dressing like prostitutes just because we don't dress as they do and cover our whole body with what they call modest clothing but hey wait a minute, didn't they all know how us aussies dress all the time, whether it be to work, shops, school, to the beach and pools etc. And what about the food we eat etc etc etc they knew none of it was halel before they came here! Well in my opinion and everyone elses I know, they should never have come, they should have migrated to a country that is muslim based not christian based. Every single person I know is sick of it. I have Egyptian friends, driven away fromt their own country because of muslim invasion, friends from Israel, driven away due to the same thing, friends from England, the same thing there. This is happening the world over, people are leaving their countries due to the muslims invading everywhere. It needs to stop now, our governments need to wake their ideas up and look at the reality of things before its too late. Stop muslim immigration now.

      • Li Xiang says:

        As a Chinese, I have immigrated to New Zealand many years ago and left my beautiful country so that i can get an English education. In here I have studied many subjects and have met a lot of Muslims, Christians, Hindus etc and not one of them have ever shown hate towards my Asian culture or the fact that I am an Atheist. Right now I and my family are looking for a religion and to me it seems that Islam, Hinduism and Bud ism are the most peaceful and meaningful religions as they have strict teachings in life and really appeal to me as they neglect drinking, sex etc and promote praying and treating people with respect. When I had read your comment, I was shocked to see that you implied why Muslims came to "your land", when in fact this land belongs 100% to the Aborigines. You or the Muslims and anyone else in Australia are migrants to the country belonging to the Aborigines. Its wrong to accuse Muslims of "taking over" Australia when in fact you British came here and took over the native peoples land. When the British came, they killed and hunted the natives and completely cleansed and killed all the natives in Tasmania. So please don't be a hypocrite and remember you are an immigrant who forced law and sovereignty on the natives.

        • M Schwartz says:

          ***So please don't be a hypocrite and remember you are an immigrant who forced law and sovereignty on the natives.***

          @ Li Xiang, I hope you support the independence of Tibet :-)

          Please don't suggest that it is illegitimate for people in a country to determine the demographics in a manner that they consider best. Australians should learn from the mistakes of Europe which has considerable assimilation issues due to misguided policies.

          At a minimum, people from cultures that are quite different should be highly educated so you avoid the problem of importing a resentful underclass (eg. as has occurred in Paris).

      • Kiwi Girl says:

        Annie,
        Most of us are very accepting and friendly and very warm towards everyone. Its the religious extremists who sneer at other religions or ways of living. Also I dont buy your Egyptian friends crap that they were driven outta their countries because of MUSLIM invasion...hahahaha at least get your facts right before posting rubbish here!
        Islam came to Egypt centuries ago and Egypt is one of the very liberal and modern muslim countries and the people are very open minded and liberal!

        Also I think you are being very closed minded and your views re opressive because every normal New Zealander is satisfied with an average Muslim immigrant. Muslims are highly educated and occupy key professional roles in New Zealand as well! I know its hard to believe for a person like you but just for once open your eyes and stop seeing people based on their religion and the "media's" biased view

        Live and LEt live ..Peace and love for everyone

  13. zeinab says:

    new zealand is my dream country.now that i know it is safe for muslim people
    i hope i will come inshala one day .i wish .because i love new zealand so much

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  16. Sir, Assalam Alaikum,
    I am preparing a dictionary of the Holy Qur’an titled “Complete Dictionary of the Holy Qur’an”. Its first volume is complete and it consists of about 600 pages. When it is completed it will consist of more than 3600 pages in six volumes. This dictionary gives, in English, not only the meaning of each and every word used in the Qur’an but also at many places it tries to explain the words used in the Qur’an. It is not just a word-to-word translation of the Qur’an but it tries to teach its language. The words have been given in order of recitation. I have spent more than fifteen years, working daily for about 10 hours, to study the Arabic Text of the Qur’an and the preparation of the first volume. Now the other volumes are to be typed. Typing takes a lot of time as the checking is done many times to avoid the mistakes, as far as possible. If I get your e-mail address I will be in position to send a few sample pages, from the first volume, for your kind perusal. I want to get the first volume published through some good publisher. I request you to help me in this regard. I will be very thankful for this kind act of yours. This publishing will encourage me very much for further work. I will explain the necessary grammar in a few pages at the time of publication. I think you will like this attempt of mine and help me in this direction.
    Thanking you,
    Yours sincerely,
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  17. ROBERT says:

    New Zealand should stop any further Muslim immigration or face the same problems being faced by the indigenous populations of Britain and Europe. Muslims do not assimilate and a cultural clash inevitably results. Already in the U K Christmas displays are curtailed so as not to offend Muslims, though Muslims have instigated a "Christmas is Evil" campaign, and regular demands are made for sharia law to be adopted by the U.K. No Sharia law in New Zealand please!

    • Hamesh Youssef says:

      Hi Robert,

      Islam accepts other faiths in spite this is not what mass media promotes. In Quran you will read in one verse" you have your religion and I have mine" ( chapter"Alkaferoon" meaning the non believers of Islam) and in another verse you will read:" Allah(God) does not dissuade you(muslims) form those who did not fight you or helped others to get you out of your homelands, to be nice to them and fair. Allah( God) asks you not to do the same to those who fought you, drive you out of your homeland or helped in doing so"

      لَا يَنْهَاكُمُ اللَّهُ عَنِ الَّذِينَ لَمْ يُقَاتِلُوكُمْ فِي الدِّينِ وَلَمْ يُخْرِجُوكُم مِّن دِيَارِكُمْ أَن تَبَرُّوهُمْ وَتُقْسِطُوا إِلَيْهِمْ إِنَّ اللَّهَ يُحِبُّ الْمُقْسِطِينَ

      Many mis-concepts are linked to Islam while it is not of Islam. To know you need to search in the right place, i.e. Islamic original sources: Quran and Sunnah. The Context that the verses of Quran or the sunnah were revealed /reported should be known and considered when one reads a verse or refer to sunnah otherwise it can be misinterpreted in a dangerous way. An example is the verses referring to how to deal with the non muslims who violated the treaty with muslims and attacked some muslims ( at the time the verse was revealed).

      [Edited for brevity, Admin]

      • msblue says:

        I would refer you to Ali Sina, an ex-muslim of Iranian descent who educates people about Islam and the prophet through Faith Freedom. There are many quotes from the Quran, Hadith and Sunnah. Islam does not accept other faiths. There is the principle of abrogation which means that verses in the Mecca peaceful time (eg. 'let there be no compulsion in religion') are superceeded by violent ,intolerant messages in Medina (when Mohammed had terrorized people and killed thousands). So while there are a few nice passages, they were there peaceful Mohammed wasn't in power and needed to cover up his imperialistic savage intetnions. Please educate yourself, Peace.

        • Jay Fa' alakoa says:

          Dont be a racist please and go somewhere else if you want to make trouble. We dont accept people like you in NZ.

          • Robert says:

            Its not a matter of race. There is no race called Islam. And who are you to tell me that NZ doesn't accept people like me? My family have been in NZ for four generations.... how about yours?

    • Afzal Noor Mahomed says:

      Hi Robert

      You seem to have a severe bout of Islamaphobia - shame and how sad. The only problem is intolerance, at a bare minimum, from the minority of ignorant people like yourself. The fact that we have to expect you to tolerate us is bad enough. Why not just except us for who we are - a peace loving people who want to prosper socially and economically just as much as you do. And how do you want us to assimilate - eat pork, drink alcohol, go to raves, commit adultery and fornication amongst other things. That is not our way as Muslims and you must learn to accept us for who we are and what we stand for. We have a certain code of conduct and moral values which we do not impose on non - Muslims. Spend some quality time with Muslims in New Zealand and maybe you will change your very narrow - minded perspective. Thank God I live in a country where Muslims only make up 3% of the population but where our rights to practice as Muslims is fully protected by the Constitution. Not only do non - Muslims accept us for who we are but we are highly respected. Muslims in South Africa play a major role in the socio - economic and political spectrum of society. Muslims played a prominent role in the struggle against Apartheid and are known for resisting any form of injustice. I urge you to cross the narrow - minded line you have drawn and find out more about Muslims before you pass judgement. You will be pleasantly surprised at what you discover and hopefully will feel some shame at you current perspective. Discard those chains of subjectivity and one - sidedness from your mind.

      Peace to you and good luck on your journey of discovery

      • Hamesh Youssef says:

        Assalamo Alakom Afzal,

        Happy for you. i think politically oriented mass media is what caused many people like Robert to have this kind of judgement. It is now our duty to convey the truth about Islam. we can not reach mass media but we have our own acquintances of non muslims and similar websites to try to put things in place to those who have good intentions and are willing to know. Jazaka Allah khaira.

      • msblue says:

        I agree with Robert. He is not islamophobic. 'phobia' means irrational fear and to fear islam is NOT irrational, it is logical and necessary. Islam is a fascist ideology, similar to Nazism. I'm speaking as a Hindu who knows the history of muslim oppression of India. Muslims have slaughtered over 27 million hindus since they invaded India. Many Hindus were forcibly converted, thousands of hindu temples destroyed and hindu women raped. Thanks to Ali Sina of Faith Freedom, I have learned about the Prophet Mohammed who ordered the genocide of jewish tribes, raped women, had sex with a 9 year old when he was in his 50's and ordered the assassination of anyone who mocked him. Muslims are making the lives of christians, buddhists and hindus hell, based on their prophet's behaviour in: Pakistan, Indonesia, Thailand, the Phillipines, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Nigeria, etc. etc. Muslims scream 'islamaphobia' but what about Hector Aleem and Aisha Bibi who are facing Pakistani apostasy laws and will be murdered by muslims? Is that 'christianophobia'?

        Peace to you that you leave the evil cult of islam. Educate yourself out of your ignorance.

        • Helena says:

          Hindu - you worship a cow and dare talk about muslims - your a joke!

        • Hamesh says:

          Mr. Hindu, I believe your info about Islam are very untrue and from very mislead sources.. Please read the right sources of Islam)Quán & sunnah) and speak to scholars who can remove the brainwshing off your head. By the way prophet Muhammad did not have an adult relationship with hazrat Aaisha when forst married her. Second do you know the age of mariage at these times? Did any of the enemies at that time accuse him of what you are implying? No none of them did as early mariage was normal these days. One more thing do you know how old was Mary when engaged to Joseph and what was her age ? or you also have a point of view regarding christians? One more thing, Aisha lived many years after the death of the Prophet (SAAW), did she complain of any type of mis-treatment/ abuse ? please check and revert. And why do you still have muslims in India ( and they are not of middle east origin either)? May Allah guide you to the straight way of thinking.

          Hamesh

  18. Helena says:

    Islam is spreading - join the caravan I say - I was ministering to Muslims when i learnt about Islam and took my shahada the same day - Alhumdulillah I am Muslim.....Islam is the only religion God the creator of everything accepts. Peace!!!

  19. RIDWAAN says:

    SALUTATIONS

    OUR PRAYERS ARE WITH ALL THE PEOPLE OF NEW ZEALAND

    MAY ALLAH GIVE SHIFAH TO THE SICK AND GIUDANCE TO THOSE WHOM HAVE LOST FAMILY AND FRIENDS,WISDOM TO THOSE IN THE POSISION TO RECKTIFY AND AN UPLIFTING HAND TO THOSE FEELING DOWN AND OUT.

    AMEEN

  20. Hh says:

    Wow nice to read these comments, from bother sides of course :) .

    I am a supporter of David Duke and I believe he is a very good intentioned man (www.davidduke.com). Some might call him a White Supremacist, others would see that he is, instead, just.

    David believes that the massive rape, murder and crime in America is fully to blame for the massive immigration that has taken place in America, coupled with the integration of Whites and Blacks. I believe this to be partially true.

    He shows scientific studies that show Blacks and Whites are completely different and can not be schooled the same way (ie. the western way). He also pushes for the "preservation of America's heritage and freedom".

    David Duke wants to preserve the European genes so that they are not mixed and unique features are not lost that come from the European heritage and past.

    After thinking about the writings of David Duke, for a long time. I realised that by assimilating on a global scale, and effectively losing distinct racial differences between human beings, this would retard (or slow down) the speed of civilisation and achievements that occur in this world. And I again thought about its implications, and I came to the conclusion ... that this isn't a bad thing.

    Why is it not a bad thing that your heritage is lost and mixed among many races? Well you we are humans, consisting of mind, body and soul. The body is a tool in this world, it needs to be tamed, from evil/illegal desires. The tool (body) needs to be used to channel our soul toward our creator the one and only Almighty God. By paying less attention to the body (a tool), and focusing more on the soul, the rewards in the afterlife are numerous, and the "achievements" in this worldly life that have been missed out on are nothing in comparison.

    Sorry for the wall of text, just something controversial in my head that ended up in a nice conclusion that I thought I might share :) .

    • john holmes says:

      David Duke is a tool. A failed politician, a failed grand fool of the kkk, a known fabricator, a conman and a liar. Why do muslims give this berk so much credence. I've read muslim thinkers use his writings on 911 as proof of some conspiracy. Well there might be a conspiracy but he's not the person to go to in order to get the facts. In fact he would have lynched Malcom X and I know for a fact that if your muslim in America he'd probably lynch you too. It always amazes me how this idiot is trotted out as some kind of authority on anything other than murdering his fellow citizens. It's not like he has any real education other than lighting crosses at the nearest klan rally. outside of America he is treated as if he's some travelling scholar, but back in America he is the laughing stock, not to be taken seriously at all and to be thoroughly dismissed as a crackpot. Keep on liking him if you wish but you'd be better following a lesser crackpot like Lyndon LaRouche.

      • Hh says:

        Why don't you read the wikipedia article section of his affiliation with KKK. It still won't change your mind that much but you wont really understand where hes coming from if you've got a big picture of white robed people killing black people. You have to be a bit more open minded to get the picture.

        He is simply pointing out that the European/White race is undergoing genocide by mass immigration into western countries. Anyway having said all of that, I'm not a "dedicated" follower, the only persons I follow with dedication are the Prophets of God Almighty. It just doesn't hurt to listen to people and get some information from them, even if 50% of their information/opinions is not good (morally or conflicting with your own beliefs).

        Also I raised my opinion in light of the comments on this page showing intolerance to the Muslims, there is another view to that (the one I offered).

        • john holmes says:

          Well white robed people murdered black people all the time. Burned their homes and businesses for no apparent reason other than delusional jealousy. In fact there were incidents of mobs burning out whole black towns or portions of cities over some supposed rumor or just because the klan felt like it. Whether or not they have any nobility at all is irrelevant. The klan are murderers and anyone belonging to them can consider themselves a proud murderer. Duke is a bloody berk trying to fool people into believing that he is some kind of intellectual when in reality he's no better than Himler or Pol Pot. The only reason he professes any alegiance with muslims is that they all hate the jews. If there was no jews to hate trust me, he would be stringing up all of you dark skinned muslims by the bushel along with the blacks.

          • Hh says:

            Well I tried to refer you to Wikipedia which states that the first thing he did was to remove the white robes and promote nonviolence. But what good does that do when the past is still there that your talking about.

            I, therefore, concede my argument. However, if you stand by the idea that he is a bad person, always try to be open minded to the fact that people can change. And whatever bad thing they are doing, you should try to focus you're disapproval at the sins of a particular person, and not focus on the person instead. That's not to say you should omit using specific names, but rather expressing negativity with the (bad) actions of a person than specifically the person.

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