Comments on: The Muslim Mirpuris in Britain

By: Jaz Dhillon

Jaz Dhillon — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 18:29:07 +0000

Arsalan, you may be surprised to learn that, seeing as a very large proportion of the Sikh and Hindu Punjabis living in the city of Delhi were originally from the area around Rawalpindi, many many of the Punjabis in Delhi today speak 'pahari' / potwari Punjabi just like you. And they are referred to, by other Sikhs, as pahari people. That pahari dialect has, since time immemorial, been considered as one of the many Punjabi dialects (such as the majha dialect of Lahore and Amritsar, the malwai dialect of Ludhiana, the doaba dialect of Jalandhar which is now also spoken in the Faisalabad area of Pakistan.
Those 'pahari lok' Sikhs and Hindus in Delhi look just like you in that they are, generally, alot fairer than other Punjabis and have more aryan features. However, neither they nor you are, or ever have been, Kashmiri.

By: Arsalan

Arsalan — Thu, 05 Jan 2012 23:27:57 +0000

Myself a Mirpuri, mirpuries are not ethnic to Punjabi, nor it have not been part of Punjab, it was originally part of Pothohar Region until it became Jammu and then become Jammu Kashmir since 1850 ish. Mirpuries are ethnic to Pahari just like rest of Pakistan-Kashmir. We use Kashmiri as nationality because time of 1947, we werent chosed to be Pakistani or Indian, we become by force. that's reason we are still consider belong to Kashmir Disputed.

Mirpuries are ethnic to Pahari, speak Pahari, have Pahari culture, it is sight differently from Punjabi. Mirpuri/Paharis are close to Pothohari and Dogri people than Punjab. They even close to Gujri people than Punjabi. It is just Kashmir is a nation to us.

By: Ridhwan

Ridhwan — Mon, 01 Aug 2011 00:02:25 +0000

If that story is authentic, which we can only take 'on faith' from you, then Haitham clearly knew neither Christianity nor Islam very well, despite the impression that is sought to be given.

I am an example of a born Muslim who was on the verge of entering Chritianity and then rediscovered his own faith. Knowledge is the key to salvation. Knowledge of both the heart and mind.
And whomever Allah guides none can misguide; and whomever Allah misguides none can guide.

By: ethnic kashmiri

ethnic kashmiri — Sun, 15 May 2011 20:54:32 +0000

mirpur was part of the punjab until the treaty of amritser in 1846(as has been stated on earlier posts)and its poeple comprise of jatts rajputs and other none ethnic kashmiri people.it became part of jammu not kashmir after the 1846 treaty.jammu was renamed azad kashmir by the pakistani government after partition.it is the same as the alizai tribe in attock who are ethnic pashtuns even though they have adopted hindko as there 1st language(just as the pashtuns of kabul and its surrounding areas have adopted dari instead of pashtu as their 1st language)as until 1970 attock was part of the nwfp until ayub khan changed the borders and it became part of the punjab.though it is part of the punjab these days the alizai are still pashtun just as the peoples of mirpur are ethnic punjabi.that is 100%fact.

By: Ali

Ali — Sat, 14 May 2011 07:12:11 +0000

Also on the subject above about Mirpuri's in Britain. I was born and brought up in Bradford. While there was a lot of not so nice Mirpuri's the majority of them were lovely. I am from an Indian background. I had many friends from the Mirpur/Kashmir background and they were the same as all communities. he majority were lovely, but there were some bad apples. My closest friends growing up were from there. All there fathers worked, be it self employed manual labour or employed manual labour. Their mothers always invited me into their homes and fed me. Lovely hosptality. Of course there were exeprions and ther were some disgusting ones who were uneducated and horrile in personality,but on the majority the race was as any. I now work as a housing manager and one of the estates I manage, all residents are form the white race. Some parents allow their 6 year old children to stay out til 10/11pm. They curse and swear at their children with words that disgust you. They don't have any repect for their neighbours and they do not respect the lovely house they have been given by the authorities. But they do not represent the whole of the white community. The white community is just like any group. The Majority are lovely, but there is a small percentage who are not very nice.

By: ethnic kashmiri

ethnic kashmiri — Mon, 09 May 2011 20:57:53 +0000

as an ethnic kashmiri i have to tell you that mirpuris are only kashmiri by citizenship and are infact punjabis.mirpur and its ethnic punjabi population only became part of kashmir in 1846(check the 1846 treaty of amritsar for proof of this).that is why mirpuri people are correctly known to ethnic kashmiris as ethnic punjabis.im am merely stating a fact.

By: ak

ak — Mon, 09 May 2011 20:44:14 +0000

mirpuri people are citizens of azad kashmir but they are not ethnic kashmiris as mirpur had no ethnic or historic link to kashmir until the 1846 treaty of amritsar between the british raj and the maharaja gulab singh.before this mirpur was part of the punjab and the people of mirpur were and still are ethnic punjabis.

By: ak

ak — Mon, 09 May 2011 20:31:26 +0000

mirpuri people are not trying to steal punjabi culture and cannot look down on punjabi people as mirpur was part of the punjab until the 1846 treaty of amritsar between the british and the maharaja gulab singh, in which the district of mirpur and its ethnic punjabi population ie-mirpuris became part of jammu and kashmir, which did not even come into being until this treaty.before the 1846 treaty of amritsar mirpur and its populance had no historic,geographic or ethnic connection to kashmir.that is historical fact.the population of mirpur though citizens of azad kashmir are ethnic punjabis.ask any historian or any ethnic kashmiri and they will confirm this as true.that is why mirpuri people have the same culture as punjabis as they are ethnic punjabi themselves.so it is incorrect to say mirpuris are trying to copy punjabi culture.

By: Ali

Ali — Sun, 08 May 2011 08:53:11 +0000

Muslims and Christians all have the same agenda. We want world peace and not even an individual person to be persecuted never mind people oin the thousands..... I am a Muslim.... By name anyway.... I wish myself and more Muslims would do more work that is required from us, which is helping our local communities and in the Uk this would be things like working/volunteering in hospitals, drug and alcohol services, elderly, disabled, learning disability groups etc etc... Muslims are not bad bad people, either are Christians, both Jesus's message and Muhammed's was one of the same..... care for people, care for animals, care for your world..... we are all one community, not seperate.... strip us of our skin and we are identical.... Spread love and care and not hate and war...

By: mansha khan

mansha khan — Thu, 21 Apr 2011 20:35:17 +0000

i would like to mention some factually untrue statements in the article. i.e. mirpuris did not come over to the UK in the result of the construction of Mangala Dam. as a matter of fact people from this part of the state of jammu and kashmir used to be in sea service since ages even before the partitioning of the sub-continent that is one, while the majority of the masses in the mirpur district belongs to the caste jat (different sects of the clan). please make the correction to keep the record correct.