Ford, Muslims and mosques in Dearborn, Michigan
Dearborn is the hometown of Henry Ford and the world headquarters of the Ford Motor Company. Many years ago Muslim immigrants to the United States (US) were drawn to the relatively high-paying jobs associated with the auto industry in the area.
Dearborn, Michigan now has the largest single concentration of Arab Muslims in North America. There are 32,000 Arab Muslims from Lebanon, Yemen and Iraq living in East Dearborn, making up almost 1/3 of the population. In some districts it is common to see store signs and billboards written in Arabic.
Shi'a Mosque
The Islamic Centre of America in Dearborn, a Shi'a mosque frequented mostly by Lebanese Muslims, is the largest mosque in the US. The Centre's attractive website has several good photos: http://www.icofa.com/.
Mosques and Islamic Centres play an important role in the life of American Muslims. They are places of refuge and of rest; places where a Muslim can experience the Islamic community and learn about Islam. Many Muslims feel safer and more relaxed within the centres which are somewhat isolated from outside influences. Dearborn is one of the few places in the US where one can actually hear the call to prayer publicly over a loudspeaker.
Making Christ Known
There have been a number of efforts to make Christ better known to Muslims in Dearborn. However, many believers say that in general, it can sometimes be even harder to discuss believing in Jesus with Muslims in Dearborn than elsewhere. Muslims in Michigan have a fortress mentality manifested in community pressure to conform to Muslim ideals.
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Prayer starters:
* Pray that the Muslims in Dearborn will respond to the Gospel message they have heard (Acts 28:26-28).
* Pray for the Arabic speaking Muslim background believers who live in the area. May they have God's grace in the Yemeni, Iraqi and Lebanese neighborhoods to start new communities of believers.
* Pray for the new adult male believers in the Messiah to openly profess their faith in the context of their families, as well as in the larger Muslim communities. Their influence and authority in the home and society will pave the way for the Gospel to be heard and obeyed by others.
From Thief to Giver
Ali (not his real name) was a man with a very hard heart. In the past he would ride trains and befriend people. When they fell asleep, he would steal their belongings, jump off the train and sell the things. He tried Islam but it did not change him. When his sister-in-law became a Christian he persecuted her. Later, however, he acknowledged Jesus as Lord and he is now one of the main leaders of the church! The transformation in his life has been nothing less than incredible! He is one of the most humble and loving men we know. This is especially seen in how he cares for his wife and daughters!
Thoughts that disturb ...
* Muslims often believe that the Bible has been altered and corrupted. They will deny its authority because they see it as not being authentic.
* Muslims believe the Holy Trinity implies a belief in three gods. Many Muslims believe that the Christian Trinity is made up of the Father, Mary (the virgin) and the Son (Jesus).
* They believe it is blasphemy to affirm the divinity of Jesus and to give Him the title “Son of God”. Many believe this implies that God had sexual relations with Mary and that a son was born physically through the union. (This idea is also unacceptable for Christians.)
Video: Muslims in Dearborn
Dearborn, Arab Capital of America, history and info about Islamic Center in Dearborn [3:26]
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so i whent back to check and the mesig was gone just thot id let you know of problem
hear gose agine as fare as i know all books are copyrighted
if you wher to burn the bible you would be suporting the cristian fath because as far as i can tell the copyright is owned by christian orginastions at some point that bible has to be purchest thearby suporting the christian faith
is it the same with the KORAN?
i hope thieas thots help
love fromyour christan infedell friend
please forgive the pore spelling
@ Harold
no one has copyrights to any of the Books send by Allah/God..
The Bible is not own by any Christian organizations, any more that the Jewish own the Torah
or the Muslim own the Quran..
These are Books send by Allah/God to mankind in order that we may learn and understand His
Law's ect..ect..
To burn the Bible does not mean that it will in any way support the Christian Faith
and to burn the Quran will not support the islamic Faith,it just means that the people who do burn any religious Books are ingorant individuals who do not understand the content of their own Book
and are not true believers in their own Faith...whatever that may be...
All the Books..the Torah, the Bible and the Quran were sent by Allah/God, and contain God's law's in it..His name in It..Jesus name in It,and all the names ot the Prophets sent by God...
So, if one is Christian and burns the Quran..or the Torah..is the same as they burn their own Book..
What is it with people...??dont they read the content of their Book..?
where in the Bible or Torah did Allah/God said to burn His Books if you do not like the people who is reading them..?
where did Jesus said that...??
where did Moses said that..or prophet Mohammad...where is it written...???
Burning God's Books it's nothing but an act of hate, ignorance and arrogance
not and act of Faith......nothing more nothing less than that...
Peace be to you Harold my Christian brother,
may Allah/God guide you on the Straight Path..
and please feel free to ask anything about Islam that you may want to know...
Al Caswa...With all due respect, the Bible and the Torah are the same book just without the new testament. The Qur'an however is not related in any way as a holy book to anyone but Muslims. Also...Muslims like to inject Islam into Christianity by saying we worship the same GOD. That is very untrue. The god of Islam is NOT our GOD. Just because you use the arabic word for GOD(Allah) does not make him my GOD. My GOD does not mention Muhammad in the Bible and the prophesy of a final prophet coming forth does not describe Muhammad as Muhammad is not an Israelite which in the Bible says he will be. Our bible also warns that if angels come forth and preach the gospel and it is contrary to what was already preached he is to be cursed. Muhammad/ the qur'an contradicts the bible(new testament) repeatedly.
Muslims like to smile and preach about peace and how Islam and Christianity are close in that we worship the same GOD and that the Qur'an has many of the same stories as the bible....Well as far as the Qur'an and the bible....The Qur'an was written some 500 years AFTER our bible was in the hands of Christians, so copying sections was quite easy. What I find amazing about Islam is that eventually Islam become the law of the land and is FORCED upon people with harsh punishments for those that do not follow the rules. With this kind of forced religion you may have millions of Muslims that will follow the law so they will not be punished but in their hearts you may have none. In Christianity you can be as bad a Christian as you want because your salvation depends on YOU and GOD and our GOD loves those that CHOOSE him rather than are forced to him by law. It's this simple...would you value the gift given to you out of free will and happiness or the gift given out of fear that no gift given will result in beatings and punishments? Where Americans fail is that we do not take the time to understand that Islam in America is contradictory to our very way of American life. We Americans would lose our basic rights if Islam became the state religion. Women would no longer have the rights they have, they would be separate from men, and eventually Sharia law would take hold. No thanks...
@ David (1)..
First let me say thank you for your comments about my Religion, Yes, i am fully aware that the Torah and the Bible are now the same Book,printed as one,but they are also printed separately.
And with all due respect,i must desagree with you about the Quran,but i am always open to opinions..you may know something i dont,and please bear with me here....as most here probably figured that english is not my mother tongue,so at times i am left with no choices but to express myself my way..but no desrespect meant to anyone,Christian,Muslim,Hindu ect..ect..
having said that,let me comment on your opinion that the Creator i call Allah,and the Creator you call God,are two different God's,or perhaps you may think that Allah may not exsist at all..And actually in the Bible prophet Mohammad is found in the Song of Salomon chapter 5 verse 16:
"Hikko Mamittakim we kullo Muhammadim Zehdoodeh wa Zehraee Bayna Jerusalem."
and His name is also found many times in the Hindu Scriptures...
http://tinyurl.com/2v3x3z5 ( hindu scriptures)
http://tinyurl.com/2fw5pa5 ( Bible)
Christianity and Islam are very similar, reality is that we share the same "stories", we believe in thesame Prophets,and indeed, the Quran was written way after the Bible was in the hands of Christians....Important note :
It may be noted that there were no Arabic Bibles in existence in the 6th Century of the Christian Era when Prophet Muhummed lived and preached
continued..
David2
Besides, he was absolutely unlettered and unlearned, like its mentioned in in the book of Isaiah chapter 29: 12:"And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned."
No human had ever taught him a word. His teacher was his Creator.
David, Islam was never forced on anyone...but if we wish to go back in history and explore the first crusaders of 1090 summoned by Pope Urban II to Palestine, we will see that by the admission of Christian scribes themselves,the bloodshed from the slaughter of the Muslim was so great that the crusaders found themselves knee deep into it..
but when the Muslim regain control of Palestine,there was no bloodshed,no one was killed
and the Christians were protected by the Muslim and live peacefully together...
all documentred history....
Muslim will never knock at your door any day of the week..
they will never insist you listen to them..
they will never leave pamphlets or notes even though there is a sign on the door that reads:
no solliciting, no exceptions:
they will never go on tv offering a peace of : blessed cloth: for a :donation: of $100...ect..ect..
If Islam was spread by the sword..as many say...then what kind of sword was used to the american people joyning islam ? or indonesia ,or germany,china..ect..ect..?
The only "sword" used was the sword of Intellect....
continued..
@david (3)
... No disrespect meant here..but why is it that Christians will not accept the words of Jesus...? that always puzzled me...
But i have a question for you David..
if "my God" is not your God...and my God is the wrong God...then why is it that My God in My Book, the Quran, explained to me all about Embriology 1400 years ago,when it was humanly impossible to know about the different stages of the embryo,and things that we were only capable of finding out with our modern technology..and nothing like this is found in the Bible..?
http://www.islamicmedicine.org/embryoengtext.htm <<how can we deny this ??
http://creationofuniverse.com/.. <<<or this..??
Why do we find in my Book the Quran about the barrier between the salt water and fresh water surah 55 Al-Rahman)..and nothing like its found in the Bible..?
I think the whole idea here as far as religions...is not about my God or your God..its not about liking the law or not liking the law...
but its about finding out what our Creator ordained for us..all of us.
the question is...do we love our Creator enough to obey Him..or do we think we should pick and chose our way of life...?
Our beloved Jesus told His followers all they needed to know...
have they listened...?
have you David, listen..?
Thank you for the opportunity for this post..
may You and all be Guided....
(Edited for brevity, Admin)
it would be an injustice for my post to be rejected..
but not toward me,
but to our Creator who is mentioned in my posts..
ok..perhaps it was a little to long..
so i will repost the lines that were removed...
this are the lines belonging to #3..
as i think its very important that people should know..
@david 3
It does the Muslim no good to accept islam because someone told us to..islam mean's nothing if it does not come from the hart...its like taking a bite out on air when you are hungry...it would be meaningless...and just saying:i accept Islam :
are wasted words,as they mean nothing...as Islam is in the heart,Islam is the Love for our Creator,
Islam is to aknowledge the so many Blessings our Creator bestow upon us..like our beloved
Prophet Mohammad...He was sent as a Mercy to mankind..= me and you,white or black or red..
rich or poor...man or woman....all equal under His Law...
No derserpect meant here..but why is it that Christians will not accept the words of Jesus...?
that always puzzled me...
Thank you @ admin
Al caswa,
We here in the US and everywhere else in the world hear repeatedly from Muslims that we are not to judge Islam by the actions of a "few bad muslims"....???? Saddam killed hundreds of thousands of fellow Mulsims in the name of Islam, Iraq and Iran kill each other in the name of Islam, Afghanistan Taliban kill fellow Muslims in the name of Islam, Hamas and fatah kill each other in the of Islam, Syria supports killing of basically anyone in the name of Islam...I could go on and on and on regarding all the violence in the name of Islam. If Islam is the perfect religion and only a few are bad examples of Islam than why is the entire world including Africa (Somalia), Chechnya, Saudi Arabia, or anywhere Islam takes a hold in constant Violence. Please leave America out as we have very little to do with the fighting within the religion. How can all the violence be justified by the doers using Islamic principles? When the the towers were falling down in NY, YOUR Islamic community was out in the street celebrating and yet your Qur'an clearly states that only combatants against a muslim may be killed? Women and children and non fighting men were NOT to be killed and yet you all were in the street shouting Allah akbar....as even innocent Muslims were killed in the towers.
You can speak of peace within Islam all you want...it does not change reality of what is.....YOU Al Caswa refuse to come to grips with the fact that islam is not living up to what you say it is. I think you may be a good person but you may also be waiting for your notification to Jihad just like Attah in Florida who visited nude bars and liquor lounges in Florida and then killed in the name of Islam. Very mixed up....
Al Caswa,
You should not be concerned as to my relationship with Jesus as it plays no role in this conversation and does not put Islam in a better spot. Islam is FORCED upon people plain and simple whether YOU like it or not. Living in Italy gives you the opportunity to practice your religion in a voluntary manner so good for you but try and go to the middle east with a female friend and want to be alone just to drink a cup of coffee with her and you will have serious problems. Have her walk around with no head covering and just for the heck of it....hold her hand.....let's see how long it will take before you are chastised. Before too long my friend if you do not listen to islamic law of that country you will experience Islam in a very painful way....Then again for all I know you may stand there and throw stones at her while she is buried up to her waist and cannot get away.
Al Caswa...This is what happens in YOUR religion that YOU LOVE....At least take ownership of that instead of blaming a "few bad Muslims" for all the violence in the world of Islam...Why don't as an experiment only mind you....push your fellow Muslim friends and Imam by saying you might leave the faith....:) I wonder how long it will take before you here as a warning that you could be killed if you do leave....Of course in Italy you have the choice to do that...So try this in the middle east somewhere....
Al Caswa,
Al Caswa...I sin every day...that does not mean I do not love the Lord and I do not think our Lord thinks that too. He proves that over and over in the Bible. He loves us. As for Embryology??? idk that answer but the real question to you is this...What does embryology have to do with your or my salvation? Nothing...The Bible leads us to salvation not to science class. 
Although science has yet to disprove the Bible by the way....Muslims think the bible was torn apart by the Catholics but when you compare the bible to history books of the times there are no conflicts. And...so far science has researched and tried to disprove times and places and events and so far all the scientists have been able to do is confirm the accuracy of the book. Just last summer a copper box was unearthed in Israel and on it all the names of Jesus' family members were engraved on it. Carbon dating proved it to be from the time of Jesus and it was found in the area he lived.
We are not perfect and God knows that. What is in our heart cannot be hidden from the Lord so he knows who we are.
As for your question regarding murderers and rapists...I am human so of course I would want the worst pain upon them but that is wrong as a Christian. Jesus says we need to find it in our heart to forgive them and move on and that our days are not promised to us so we need to be right with him and the rest works itself out. You know Al Caswa...even murders and rapists can become saved later on. They still must adhere to whatever punishment our legal system assigns them but there can very well be saved criminals in prison right now. THAT is what is so wonderful....
I would be interested in hearing about your in and out of Christianity and what happened if you don't mind. Al Caswa...Humans feel comfortable with everything spelled out for them and Islam does that. Do you know that in the Qur'an no where does it say you have to pray 5 times. But yet every Muslim prays 5 times. I guess the Qur'an...GOD's word is not good enough? Muslims follow some mans ahadith that says to pray 5 times a day? The instruction in the Qur'an is very specific ...3 TIMES.
This ahadith writer is the same one that wrote that Ayisha's mother pulled Ayisha off the swing while she still held her doll and gave her to Muhammad and that Muhammad had marital relations with her. Muslims and maybe you as well say that that Ahadith is "weak" (untrue) as it is not supported by the Qur'an...So which way is it Al Caswa? How can a followed author of religious instruction be right AND wrong and still be followed by a majority of Muslims? If you took away ahadiths the Islamic religion would change drastically and ahadiths are not even GOD's word but men who decided to write down what they observed during Muhammad's life.
One more point Al Caswa...do you know that Muhammad was still in the process of reciting and compiling the Qur'an. He died and so other men that had no real involvement in that "miracle"...had no vision from Gabriel decided how to put the book together and what should be in it.
I know this post is long so I'll give you a day to read and respond...:)
David
@ David...
i have read your post..
it is not 7 am saturday...
im afraid i will be busy for most of the weekend.. weather permitting that is.. as i have workers coming for a project i been working on..
But i will be more than happy to reply to your post...
this is my email address..al_caswa@yahoo.com
just in case....as there is no "reply" choice under some of my posts..and some of yours..at least on my end anyways..
and im not familiar with how the blogging system works..
so perhaps there is a limit on how many times one post..i dont know..
either way, rules must be respected...
you touch on few very important subjects...and i intent to reply in detail, if all goes well perhaps later this evening..God's willing..
Caswa...
Al Caswa,
Funny how the countries you mentioned where Muslims can be muslims without fear are "western" civilizations. In the middle east(Islamic world) Islam is very much forced upon people. Right now as we speak a woman is sentanced to death by stoning in Iran. Adultry is a crime to the nucleus of a family, a crime against trust of your spouse but certainly not a CRIMINAL offense except in Islamic middle eastern countries. A couple were jailed in Saudi Arabia for sharing a kiss in a downtown area because they were not married. A criminal offense? Islam is very much forced onto the people in the middle east because Islam has become LAW of the land. To say it will never happen in a western society is scary because all it takes is a majority vote. That is why Americans need to become aware of how Islam works in countries where islam and the governemnt are joined at the hip. The man that stole the presidency in Iran just had his decision on a matter modified by the Imams as too leniant. So he changed the decison to be inline with Islam(whatever the imams decide that to be).
The only country in the world that has Christianity AS THE rule of law is the Vatican and whether you are in the Vatican or any country of Christian influence you will not find death as an acceptable means to punish religious violators and other than a few of the ten comandments religion is not incorporated into criminal laws.
To a christian "Honor" is not regained within a family by killing the offending family member. That's "MURDER"!! I was going to say "you can keep your faith" but instead I offer to you to that Jesus welcomes those that seek him so please do that. It will be the best thing you have ever done for yourself....
@ David..1)
first i must say that when i speak of islam...
im not speaking about the actions of some Muslim.., but the Law's/content of the Quran and the Ahadith's of the Prophet..as there is good and bad mo matter where you look...
having said that, let me say that there is no honor killing in Islam(Laws of Allah/God)
Honor killing is not found in the Quran...and if its not there, no need to speculate..if its not there we know its not to be done....if its there..then we know it can be done..
Quran 5;32 Because of that We ordained for the Children of Israel that if anyone killed a person not in retaliation of murder, or (and) to spread mischief in the land ..ect..
Qur'an 2:256 Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects Taghut (evil) and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trust worthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things.
Adultery is a crime agains the Laws of God,my God, your God= one God .
Exodus 20:14 "You shall not commit adultery
Deuteronomy 22:22 "If a man is found sleeping with another man's wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die
Leviticus 20:10 "If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbor--both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death
@ David 2)
then we look at Matthew 5:17-18.>>>
Do not think that I [Jesus] have come to abolish the Law (the Old Testament) or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, **not the smallest letter**, **not the least stroke or a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law**(the Old Testament) until everything is accomplished." <<< meaning till the end of time, as there will be an end to all that we know ...here...Nothing should be changed/removed/added from the Law...
Christians believe that Jesus is the son of God or God incarnate=God..
So i must ask myself... if matthews 5.17 ( and not limited to)are the words of God...why did people change them/reject them..basically desregard them...?
Thank you David for your kind offer, ironically i was born and raised in a country where there was no other religion but the Roman Catholic faith..i was born and i grow up in Italy...and the in's and out's of the Christian Faith i know well...
If some day you may read the Quran just out of curiosity, you will find that what you heard about islam...most of it is not incorrect..
i have a question if i may...
what do you think the penalty for child rape and murder should be?
no obligation to answer......
Thank you for you time...
@ David..1)
Saddam killed about 150 thousand people in his 35 years reign..
and mostly were radicals...was he right to do what he did..? no...
the occupation of iraq has taken the life of 1.3 million people in the past 8 years..
was that justified...? no... but they both happen.
i personally think that people need to let others live their life's in their own countries
under their culture and life style..without forcing democratic governments of them..
does that happen...? no...but it should..
My religion is not fighting anyone..the Muslim are trying to live in their countries without
anyone trying to make them into someones they are not...westerners...
people must respect eachother ways and lifestyles...
no muslim has occupied a foreigner country since i believe mid 1400 ...
About 9/11...only the people responsible for what happen truly know what actually happened...
the only thing i'm wondering is how the towers can collaps in 11 and 9 seconds...
and why Silversteen said to "pull" building 7...it din't get hit by anything..
but i'll leave these things up to Allah/God..as he know's down to the T what happen.
David...i am not concerned about your relationship with Jesus...these are things left up to Allah/God, as He is the only One who can see into our heart's, and He will judge us in time..
@ David 2nd and last..)
About me leaving Islam...it will never happen...but if that was my choice, i could walk away from it right now..
again...this is between me and my Creator, and he will pass Judgement on my for my actions..as He will judge you for your actions..
David... if you tell me that Islam should take ownership for the actions of some muslim...
then i would have to say to you that Christianity should take ownorship for the 10's of thousand of molestation cases within the Catholic Church (the building blocks of Christianity)for the past 40 years...
But that would not be fair..because Christianity is not responsible for that... the priest's are.....one must be fair in his/her dealings.....
PS...i think you misunderstood about Italy...
what i meant was that i was born into the Catholic religion..as in..i was Christian my whole life
minus 3 years...never hears about Islam before 9/11...look into it for few years..accepted Islam 3 years ago..
and i left Italy at the age of 18 a life time ago......and a resident of America since...
Quran 109
Say (O Muhammad (PBUH)to these Mushrikun and kafirun
"O Al-Kāfirûn (disbelievers in Allāh, in His Oneness, in His Angels, in His Books, in His Messengers, in the Day of Resurrection, and in Al-Qadar, etc.)
I worship not that which you worship,
Nor will you worship that which I worship.
And I shall not worship that which you are worshipping
Nor will you worship that which I worship.
To you be your religion, and to me my religion (Islāmic Monotheism.
Peace be to you David
Iran doesn't have 'imams'. It has a Grand Ayatollah and mullahs that make decisions there. Do you know why it's impossible for there to be an 'imam' in Iran? I suggest you take the time to actually research what you're talking about before you go typing on without knowledge.
Christianity isn't really a good example nor is Judaism of capital punishment being followed or not followed in a land. Especially when it's well known that both Christians and Jews cherry pick passages from the Torah and Bible to suit them. Just because Christians don't actually enforce the laws of the Bible doesn't mean that Christianity doesn't call for capital punishment. The laws are still there, you all just choose not to follow them.
David, THANK YOU for reminding me time and time again why I should NOT accept Christianity. It's exactly attitudes like yours, condescending, aggressive and hateful that turns me off from Christianity. You could not be more wrong about Islam. Excuse me sir, but I was under the impression that God is EVERYONE'S God, not 'your' God. Even in your Bible there are glaring contradictions to what God supposedly taught. Paul contradicts Jesus over and over again yet you spew this rubbish about the Qur'an contradicting the Bible. The New Testament is NOT in any way shape or form part of the Torah so you got that wrong too. Jews do NOT accpt Jesus as anything other than a Jewish guy and they point out the fact that your Bible goes against their teachings. So if you want to use these arguments against the Qur'an, that because it contradicts the Bible as an earlier scripture, that it is invalid, then I suggest you LOOK IN THE MIRROR SIR!
I just wonder if you consider and analyse the following statistics:
1. how many killings have been done by the christians or the christian majority countries.
2. How millions of red indians were wiped out of their own contry.
3. What number of black africans were kidnapped, bought and slaved in america.
4. For how long christian states of USA backed exploitation of black americans. The christians presiets supported un-christian happenings.
5. How many countries of the world were conolised by the christian countries. The basic fabric of the culture destroyed for their economic gains.
6. How many Vietnamese killed (1.5 million) by americans for no reason. Can you compare the atrocities of 9/11 with Vietname.
7. Which country used atom bomb to kill thousands and thousands.
8. How many millions killed by a Christian in WW I and WW II.
9. Bush a so-called and Blair a so-called Christian lied to kill millions in Iraq.
10. Do you the "True Believers" have the courage to come out and practice Christianity by telling your people and the governments how un-christian they are.
11. Is Christianity just to do all sorts of adultary and unethical sex activities on the fridays and saturdays evenings and after sunday morning shower come in your church and face God and Christ. Isn't it a mockery.
11a. Can you calculate the % of most destructive weapons being produced by the Christian world. Were this will be used. How many resources of the poor countries will be plundered by selling these weapons. Is it behaving on Christs teachings.
12. You do not become christian by just standing in the church on saturdays.
13. Please come forward and become a true Christian.
14. Jesus was an honorable prophet. Practice his teachings. He does not want recitations. Be a true christian and not just a pressure group.
Tell your governments to stop spying the world for their gains. It is un-christian behavior.
Musarrat
This is true. So what is your point? It is bad when Christians do it and ok when Muslims do it?
No, it is wrong no matter what.
Down with religion.
You can be saved and enlightened by God without religion.
Nice presentation, but overriding the entire story is the Muslim's unwillingness to assimilate entirely into the American culture. it appears American's are accepting them, listening to them, and accepting their culture in Dearborn. They refuse to make an effort to understand American Christianity? We must put signage up in languages other than English, hear their many calls to daily worships, hear them speak in their native languages?
They want the best of America, but seem not to be too excited about assimilating with what our Founding Fathers envisioned. Too bad for them and us.
Why should the Muslims assimilate? Our country is supposed to be The Great Melting Pot, all races and religions. I do not wish to offend any one, but as I see it we all are basically worshiping the same God. Our books differ slightly, but the message is basically the same.
Most Muslims in America were BORN IN AMERICA and are descendants of African slaves. That's right, African-Americans. They are already American so there is nothing to 'assimilate'. What I think you mean by 'assimilation' is to adopt your ways. Sorry, not gonna happen! We are very happy being Muslim and we feel no need to 'assimilate', that is to become Christian as you want. Also I think you need to study history a bit more. The Founding Fathers NEVER promoted or advocated Christianity as a state religion or English alone as a language. There is not official language of America, although the majority speaks English (and even that is changing with the influx of Hispanics in America). Therefore what's wrong with signs other than English, the calls to daily prayer and speaking languages other than English? Seems that YOU aren't excited about assimilating with what the Founding Fathers envisioned. Too bad for you and the rest of us.
Interesting to note that when Trevor Jones calls for a "Burn the Koran" day he received over 100 death threats.
While I'm glad he didn't burn them I do wonder how well the Christian / Muslim community in America is getting along. It seems both sides have a long way to go, or?
@ Observer
Terry Jones is someone who is looking for his 15 minutes of fame...
well...he got that..
and Christians and Muslim are still getting along fine...
And indeed..there is always room for improvement on both sides..
for that matter...there is plenty room for improvement for the whole world....
why was my reply to Don Ruh deleted...?
The comment is too long and too difficult to understand.
@TDI...
the reply to Ron was about : Muslim's unwillingness to assimilate into the American culture, and that the Muslim refuse to make an effort to understand American Christianity:..
Matthew 5:17 (the words of Jesus) is self explanatory for every Christian... Jesus said He came not to change the Law of Moses, but to uphold the law.
Instead Christians follow the teachings of Paul...and Paul changed the Law of Moses therefore disregarding the words and message of Jesus.
In Deuteronomy God speaks to Moses of a prophet He will send, from their brethren like unto thee as in Moses, that cannot be Jesus as Jesus Himself said in John 14:15-17,15:26, 16:13-15, 16:7-13, the ulettered Prophet, The Spirit of Truth (not the Holy Spirit) he will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I said to you he will testify about me >> and that's a very important point
God send Prophet Mohammad as a Mercy to mankind=the whole world,Jews and Gentile alike..Jesus told His followers to listen to the Comforter ..and the Muslim do...
bottom line is the Muslim understand the real Christianity
Actually...the Muslim are the best Christians as we follow the teachings of Jesus to the T.....
by accepting and following the message of prophet Mohammad and the teachings of the Quran..
as Jesus Himself told His followers to do... its all there in the Bible,in the words of Jesus...
TDI...
if the comment was not to long,
i will post in two parts
but i do not think it's to difficult to understand...
all it was, were straight quotations from the Bible...
what was there to difficult to understand..?
My reply to you, surely is not to long, and elementary to understand..
then i will assume that it should not be deleted...
as i am sure Ron Ruh would apreciate a reply..
and im sure he will have no difficulty to understand the content..
One must be fair in his dealings...
@ David...1)
Indeed we are far from being perfect....if we were,i would either wake up,or scroll way down the page..before i type anything early in the morning..but i din't..:)
but on a serious note, yes i agree,none of us are perfect ,and we all sin one way or another..Does that mean we dont love our Creator..? it does not, but the whole idea about repenting and asking forgiveness,is to try very hard not to repeat the same mistakes over and over..just because we know that Allah/God will forgive us..and i think just because we know that He is so Mercyful,we should at least try to obstain ourselves from the things He truly dislike...like adultery, fornication,mischief..actually, mischief is alot more serious than people think...why is that..? because mischief is disbelief and acts of disobedience
(Abbas and Ibn Mas`ud ):Do not make mischief on the earth''), that is disbelief and acts of disobedience on the earth. Their mischief is disobeying Allah/God because whoever disobeys Allah on the earth, or commands that Allah/God be disobeyed, he has committed mischief on the earth. Peace on both the earth and in the heavens is ensured (and earned) through obedience (to Allah/God)<<<< important point here..
And yes i know He know who we are,He also know all our thought's and intentions,and when the time comes, we will be judged not only on our deeds, but also on our intentions..as in if one give alot in charity just to show off...and not because Allah/God told us to,and because you wish to help someone in need..one will receive the reward for showing off...not much reward in there....
In the next post i like to touch on science and embriology...
but this will be all for tonight...it has been a looooooooooong day...
David 2)XX
about science and Embryology..
Actually David, about Embryology..one must wonder how someone, anyone 1400 years ago could possibly know anything about embryology..so the question is..?how did the Prophet knew about this...
and who give Him this very accurate information..?...i am asking you this question...
Respectful i have to say that science has disproved the Bible...why...? speaking only on the book of Genesis...
Genesis 1:3--5 the phenomenon of day and night was created on the first day of Creation of the Universe by God. The light circulating in the universe is the result of a complex reaction in the stars; these stars were created according to the Bible (Genesis1: 14 to 19) on the fourth day.
Its not logical to mention the result that is the light (the phenomenon of day and night) was created on the first day of Creation when the cause or source of the light was created three days later. also, the existence of evening and morning as elements of a single day is only conceivable after the creation of the earth and its rotation around the sun..according to science..
Genesis1: 9 to 13, the earth was created on the third day, and in verses 14 to 19, the sun and the moon were created on the fourth day. The earth and the moon emanated, as we know, from their original star, the Sun...so, to place the creation of the sun and the moon after the creation of the earth is contrary to the established idea about the formation of the solar system...according to modern science...
Just few points here about science and Bible..
the Bible was a book of guidance for the followers of Jesus, and sadly some people decited to add, subtract and change the content of the Books..
to be continued...Caswa
@ Admin...
again my apology as my post was to long...
i will repost what was truncated from my
David 2)XX post...
>>formation of the solar system...according to modern science...
Genesis1: 11-13, vegetation was created on the third day along with seed-bearing grasses, plants and trees; and further in verses 14-19, the sun was created on the fourth day. How is it scientifically possible for the vegetation to have appeared without the presence of the sun, as it said in the Bible..?
(Just few points here about science and Bible..
the Bible was a book of guidance for the followers of Jesus, and sadly some people decited to add, subtract and change the content of the Books..)
Jeremiah 8:8..."How can you say, 'We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us'? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie" .
to be continued
on my next post i will touch on your comment about the 3 or 5 times a day for Salat(Prayer)
and about the writer of the Ahadith's..
caswa...
islam is not a religion, it is an army,... you fool no one in this Country of religious freedom.
The FBI watches you, 24/7! you and your army are a paria in this world
@ Tom 1)
well..it would be very sad indeed if the FBI waste our money in watching Muslim 24/7
when without thinking i can come up with hundreds of much NEEDED reasons, right here at home,on how to spend all the BILLIONS used in fighting this "immaginary terrorist threats"..
If Islam was an army, how do you explain that its the american army that invaded Islamic lands?
(early 50th's Iran comes to mind..to mention one..as the whole list is way to long to mention here)
or Afghanistan before 9/11 or..or
your thoughts >9/11< But islam had nothing to do with that,anymore that the true Christians had anything to do with the slaughter of the Muslim with the expeditions of the crusaders.
One must be fair in his/her dealings Sir..
Well Tom..if myself and Islam are a "pariah" to the world..all i can say is Alhamdulillah..(Praise be to God) that it is He who will judge myself and my Brothers and Sisters,and not you..
@Tom 2)
A strange thing though...i cannot think of one single country/nation that the "Islamic army" invaded/occupied..
can you Sir, say the same about the american military..?
But i do know of wars that islam was engaged with other lands
War= open armed conflict between two or more parties
occupation/invasion= the seizure and control of an area by military forces-
infringement by intrusion-settlement-
Are you Sir, aware that all america need to do in order to eradicate "terrorism" ,is to let other Nations live their life's in peace...because when a nation, ANY nation is invaded, they will defend themselves..(i guess that IS considered Terrorism by some..)
as you, would defend your family and your country..would you not Sir..?
Good day to you Sir,and may Allah/God guide you and all...
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@ tom.....
i wish i could be there the day you MUST explain your words...
Allah/God said...
anyone who is the enemy of Allah/God,His messengers,His Angels
Allah/God is an enemy to him/her...
So let me ask you Tom....
If God is your enemy,and it seems that to be the case.....
who will you call that day when you will be in severe need of anyone
to intercede for you...?
A man will speak the words...
but the wise man will reflect upon his choice of words
before he speak them...
and if he realize made a mistake....
the real man will at least repent...
muslims are evil,......... ALL of them!!!!!!!
I agree. Thank you for saying this.
@ David..
A )Sorry for the delay David..
but my work has being keeping me busy lately..
About me "going in and out of Christianity"..what i said was that "i know the in's and out's of christianity"
meaning that i know the Religion well..
David, Islam does not "spell everything out"..anymore than Jesus "spelled everything out"for His followers.
as He said in John (and not only)14:15-14:23-24" if you love Me you will obey My commandments' ect.
John 16:13, "However, when He, the Spirit of Truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come."
surely Jesus cannot be speaking of the Holy Spirit...!!!
John 16:14, "He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you."
(Interesting to know that in the OS(Old Syriac) the Spirit of Truth is used, but changed to the Holy Spirit in the Bible)
Prophet Mohammad was well known among not only his people, long before he was a prophet ,but also by the jews as the One who had never spoken a lie in His life...He is the Spirit of Truth...
B)Isaiah 28:9-12 ect
isaiah 42:1 to 25..is pretty much self explanatory.....
These and more are the things that Jesus told His followers...
but as you can see..few seems to understand what He said to them..
all others...they sure are not going out of their way to obey Him...
even though they think of Him as God or the Son of God..
Telling someone the Laws of God,is not "spelling everything out" to/for the people..
but its the "job" of all Prophets and Messengers of Allah/God..
that is the reason They,..each and every one of them, were sent to us...
** )about Salat 3 or 5..
where you read in the Quran that mention 3 times...only 3 times are mentioned by name:
Fajr,Asr,and Isha...and it does not mean that we should observe 3 Salat and not 5...
the Quran is 100% the Words of Allah/God..and of course im refearing to in the Arabic language here..
as all translations are the opinion of the translator,but pretty close to the meaning..that is why every muslim learn the language in order to understand the true meaning....
The Sunnah was a revelation from Allah just as the Quran, although it is not recited as the Quran is recited..
so as far as everything such daily problems,Salat,how to, what to do..what not to do..ect...ect..
all this is written in the Hadith's( Sunnah of the Prophet)..as i said,the Sunnah is still the revelation of Allah/God, but spoken by the Prophet Mohammad and separate from the Quran..and they do not contradict eachother..
but if there is a contradiction between the two..the Quran is always followed
The people that wrote the Hadith's are the Companions of the Prophet.. in it we find solutions for every problems we will have in our daily life's...and i mean everything,on every level.
All Hadith are the spoken words of the Prophet...no one else's but His.
***)
The whole Quran was revealed by Jibrail (the ArchangelGabriel) by the time the Prophet death in 632...
Every syllable in the Quran was revealed by Jibrail ( in person) to Prophet Mohammad...and to no other man.
The Prophet used to recite the whole Quran in the month of Ramadan..the year he die,he recited it twice...
When Jibrail came with a Surah(chapter)..He recited it for the Prophet,and the Prophet memorized it...and He then recite for His Companions..as you know he was illiterate..
(And as it's said in John 16:13..>>He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak ect..ect..)
so His Companions wrote word by word down, probably on camel hides or whatever was available to them
The compilation was finished, sometime between 650 and 656, well after the death of the Prophet..
A copy of the original still in a museum in Turkey, and another in Yemen..
interesting reading in Isaiah 29:11-16
***)
About Aisha (ra), ..she was not married to the prophet at the age of 6...,but SHE accepted to marry Him at the age of 9...some say 12..Allah knows best..one should consider the time and culture...it was the culture of the time that girls marry at the onset of puberty,and we all know that in desert climates girls devellop earlier than in cooler climates...besides, there were reasons as to why He married a young girl..and no,it was not sex..
Even today in some countries girls marry very young..
His other wife's were as old as 50-60
if not older...and most were widow's..and for that too there were reasons..
David..
i will tell you why i separated myself from the religion of Christianity,and accepted Islam
latrer this evening or in the next few days In Sha Allah...
Caswa
I can not believe that we re letting this happen in the US. How can we have a nation within a nation. I am so scared for our future generations.
@ M. Bridges
indeed, there is much to worry
we have reached a point from which we will not turn back, not because its impossible,but because we have forgotten our reason for being,and what our responsabilities are.
we have forgotten how we got here
we have forgotten that all we have,is given to us by our Creator
we have forgotten how we should use what we have being given
We let our neighbours go hungry, while we feast and intertain
we amass large amounts of wealth, while the people of the world die of starvation
We could submitt and obey the Laws of our Creator,we could be decent people,we could be honest people..we could..we could. we could.
but we wont.
We chose to forget about Allah/God and His Laws
and so indeed, for all of those who chosed forget about Allah/God
Allah/God will forget about them.
All muslim know that
Al-Munafiqoon - 63:9
O believers! Let neither your riches nor your children divert you from the remembrance of Allah.
Those who will do so, it is they who shall be the real losers.”
Christians know too
2 Chronicles 7:14
if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and WILL FORGIVE THEIR SIN AND WILL HEAL THEIR LAND
Truly self explanatory....
been to afghanistan islam is not peaceful and is pushed on people many people dont know why they do things there you ask them something and all they can say is allah says to. which is bull****. i was caring and didnt worry about what others thing but islam is not real its some fantasy just something made up. way to many wholes in the story of it.
@ Jon
Greetings..
may i ask your reason for visiting Afghanistan, and the lenght of your stay..?
Al caswa,
I didn't get a chance to tell you in our chats but my sister had to work in Saudi Arabia for almost a year. When she arrived she hadto schedule a meeting with "officials" so that she understood her role in society while she was there. She was told to cover from head to toe, she was told she could never be seen with a man other than her husband and that she must always be with at least one other woman or her husband. She was expected to live as a Muslim even though she was not. Do you know that women in Saudi Arabia cannot work in stores and that even women's lingerie and underwear stores only hire men? Women must buy underwear and sexy lingerie from men???? Recently the women tried to protest but they were ordered to stop protesting. So they have to buy online and hope the clothing fits. Islam is more than a religion...it is a forced government onto its people with reprisals if the people do not obey.
David..
that is Saudi Arabia,they have their laws, and outsiders should respect them, or avoid going there..
we have the same principals here,you brake our laws, you pay the penalty,at least there when you arrive, they will let you know what THEIR rules are.
here too we have rules, if you shoot an intruder in your propierty, you go free..
the thing is that we are in america,and have our laws,they are in Saudi,and have their laws..we expect everyone to obey our laws,and we must do the same.
I know people from Saudi...i know women who do not wear the hijab..
it is a mixed society, with many jews and Christians living there..
you say:Women must buy underwear and sexy lingerie from men:..so what?
here 15-16 year old girls go and buy condoms from men from drug stores..not only that,we give them out in schools to 10 years old children..
i was looking up the rape statistics awhile back..There were 194,270 white and 17,920 black victims of rape or sexual assault REPORTED in 2006 in america
according to the UN there were 95,136 in 2002 in america,and 59 in saudi arabia..
i think that a government should have laws in place that benefit and protect its people as a whole..
that is freedom...and freedom is a great thing, but to much freedom in the hands of the wrong people,its often abused and becomes a lethal sentence for others..
I think that the figures speak for themselves..
bottom line is that all must respect others ways and lifestyles,and if we would obey and follow the Laws of our Creator, we would all be on the same wave lenght...
and no one would have to worry about statistics of any kind.
I will reply about my switch in the morning In Sha Allah...
So, why did i switch from Christianity to islam..?
perhaps the fact that i grow up without the "influence of modern society" had something to do with it.
for the first 8-9 years of my life i lived in a very beautiful place north east of Italy,not much there but 3 or 4 homes within 1 1/2 2 mile area,so basically the awareness of "society" was absent,and needless to say, so was the church.
And then i went from my" Garden of Eden" to the chaotic ways, aka "our society" and here comes the church,and with the Church comes the Bible..and with the Bible comes confusion...and at the end of all of that,come time for R&R=read and reason.
I read about who God is,and i found out He is not human and has no human form.
so then i have to wonder why they say"God created man in "His" image ( God created Adam in "his'own image=the image of Adam the human adult,) We do not know the form of God...if He has one, seen that He is pure Energy.
and after reading abouyt Who He is,and understanding/realizing all he is capable of....(all i need to do here..is look around me )
i have to wonder why He need help , and then i really have to wonder why He (Astaghfirullah) kills a totally innocent person (His Son according to some,God Himself according to others)to save us=wrongdoers,warmongers,criminals, rapist's ..ect...it just did not make any sense to me..
totally unlogical.. according to me.
and here the 13th Commandment comes to mind...together with >>
Ezekiel 18:20
Matthews 16:27
Romans2:6
Numbers15:31
Deuteronomy24:16 ect..ect..
And the list of questions went on and on...
And so i learn about Satan,and the question was..and who is He/She..?
to be continued later today In Sha Allah...
Its worst then I thought. Things must be done.
Personally, all this has nothing to do with God, but people and thier interpretation of God.
History shows, not matter what religion, there is violence. Christianity saw in the Roman times, and Romans werent even Muslim, yet they slaughtered Christians by the hundreds.
Hitler slaughtered Jews.
Catholics slaughtered everyone, even thier own people during the middle ages and during the inquisition as well as during the Salem witch trials.
Arguing about who is right is probably not what people should do, but rather "what is right"
Remember, no one is perfect. No one can be, and no race is unblemished from violence against another wether it be fore color, religion, polotics or just downright misunderstanding.
Violence is a human trait, one which we must overcome. One that was given to us to overcome.
Hatred, slander, anger, bigotry, cruelty, close-mindedness, violence, self-righteousness, all these are the preachings of someone I would rather not mention, other than to say "he who is evil".
So when you open your mouth to speak against another HUMAN BEING, remember, Whose gospel are you preaching?
@ Renee
you said>The US likely allowed you to live here because you were seeking asylum from the terrors of your own nations,<> but that's not what you really are doing, is it? <>You are free to your Muslim beliefs, but go practice them in someone else's nation<>but I no longer believe in your right to come here!!<<
well Renee...i do sympatize with you..but it does not matter what you believe...
as i said before,i have the right to be anywhere i want to be..
and with all due respect...may i point out that no muslim has EVER INVADED,OCCUPIED
america....like america HAS INVADED,AND STILL OCCUPY MUSLIM LANDS...
and not only...
Dear Renee...are you not keeping up with what is happening..such the slaugthering
of children in Iraq,Afghanistan, the rape of girls,the total disregard for human life...??
** this is a repost..perhaps this time it will post correctly**
@ Renee 1
You said>The US likely allowed you to live here
because you were seeking asylum from the terrors of your own nations,<> but that's not what you really are doing, is it? <>You are free to your Muslim beliefs,
but go practice them in someone else's nation<<
Renee...perhaps YOU were not told that the
WHOLE WORLD belong to Allah/God,and not to me or you...
therefore i have the right to practice His religion anywhere i wish to do so...
as you have the right...therefore i do not need YOUR permission...
@ renee 2
You said>>but I no longer believe in your right to come here!!<<
well Renee...i do sympatize with you..
but it does not matter what you believe...
as i said before,i have the right to be anywhere i want to be..
and with all due respect...
may i point out that no muslim has EVER INVADED,OCCUPIED
america....
like america HAS INVADED,AND STILL OCCUPY MUSLIM LANDS...
Dear Renee...are you not keeping up with what is happening..
such the slaugthering of children in Iraq,Afghanistan,
the rape of girls,the total disregard for human life...??
interesting...the following lines somehow did not appear..again...
**Actually Renee..you are very wrong,i've been a resident of the us looong before i accepted Islam.**
**Tell me Renee...what is that YOU think i am doing here..?**
@ Renee...
i forgot to ask you if you are aware that america also invaded
and occupied.....america...you know way..way back...?
you remember,im sure,that america did belong to the
native Indian tribes....up till your people kind of kill most of them
and claimed this land as theirs...
Common knowledge really...
Do you see a pattern here somewhere...?
So..realisticaly..it's wise to think before you question MY right to be here....
you think....?
may Allah guide you to Beautiful Islam
@ Tom
You said >>muslims are evil,......... ALL of them!!!!!!!<<
care to share your knowledge on why you think
that " every " muslim is evil..?..
perhaps you know something i dont..
and im always eager to hear what it is that you know about this subject,
that could make things as clear for me,as they seem to be for you.
you should read the book "muslim mafia"! I know what islam did during the "Crusades"! you say muslims have never invaded any Country, that is a Major Lie you have told just like All the other lies muslims always tell!!! islam mohammed and allah are nothing but pure evil, and islam will not grow in this land ever!
I also know what goes on in Dearborn MI., as you people multiply in in this Country there are going to be problems between Americans and muslims and there will be people getting shot when the riots start! you people will most likely wake another "sleeping giant" and you will pay a dear price.
There are many Americans that will not put up with your kind and they are armed to the teeth, mark my words, there is trouble brewing and you people are the ones stirring the pot. True Americans are the ones who will empty the pot forever!
I also know what islam, muslims did during WW II, the holocaust, you people say never happened???? If that is the case why did hitler's mufti, haj amin al-husseini organize over 100,000 muslim to kill Jews!
All muslims do is lie. you act like you know everything! I've got news for you little one,... I have forgot more than you will ever learn in your sad life time! When islam and muslim start acting up and causing major problems in this Country they will be put in the ground with pigs right next to them!
So you can cut the "holier than thou bullsh*t" right now, you have got much to learn!
I hate to use this as example, but seeing how Muslims hate Jews, America needs to ban Islam and do to them what Hitler did to the Jews. The only good Muslim is a dead Muslim.
One must wonder what Jesus (as) would say if He would read some comments here...
Hello ! By the way folks God loved all mankind no matter what your race enough to send his only begotten Son who was also God before the foundation of the world. But became a man so he could die on a cross for sinful man who sinned in the garden of Eden which brough about sickness , dying , wars , murdur , adultery , thefts , rapes , and various other crimes that people do against each other because of the sin nature that dwells in them. But the way out of it is to realize you are a sinner before a Holy God your creator , change your mind about your sins , and turn away from it to faith in the Lord Jesus Christ who came into the world to save sinners from their sins that bring misery and shame. He came to be conceived by the Holy Spirit , be born of a virgin , live a sinless life and to die as the one sacrafice for sins forever on the cross of Calvary . He was buried , and rose from the dead the third day , was seen of men , and went back up to heaven. For the wages of sin is death ; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. http://www.HolyBible.com , Sincerely ;
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@ Teresa, if i may ask..., what are the basis/facts of your comment?
have you researched and studied this religion?
Jesus would say that muslims are on the path to hell for what they do and for what they want.
What they want is to take over the world and whoever opposes them will die by their hand for not becoming a muslim,..... that's a fact ! It's in the quran
It's just about the same thing as obama who is a muslim sitting and listening to rev. wright for 20 years and not acknowledge what wright preached! All you people do is lie to anyone who is not muslim,..... t
@ Tom,
Are you sure YOU qualify to speak for Jesus (AS)..?
but if you think you do,..please read the Bible
Mathttew 15:24
Deuteronomy 18:18 << cannot be speaking of Jesus
Isaiah 29 :12<<And the book is delivered to him that is not learned ONLY Prophet Mohammad
Song of Solomon 5:16
John 16:7...etc..etc..
And...if you know anything about Islam, you would know that Obama cannot and he's not a Muslim.
May you be guided...
Salam
You are a very ignorant person, you only qualify to speak for the devil and Pigs!
@ Tom i see that confronted with facts from your own Bible
you fall short for words....well..educated words as far as this topic goes anyways..
by the way Tom,do you know that when we will meet our Creator,
and we sure will...we will have to explain our choice of words
PS.. devils do not want a muslim as a spokeperson,
as we will never have anything good to say about them..
they know who to hang with....
and pigs do not speak..
interesting...you capitalize the word pigs....
may Allah guide you on the Straight Path..
Ameen
GUYS, seriously stop hating.
I don't think anything in this article had offended Christians. They didn't use any harsh words, did they?
Iy you were born a Muslim, you shall believe in Allah. If you were born a Buddhist, then you shall pray to the Buddha. If you were born a Christian, Jesus is who you should believe in.
Enough said.